Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 11 Mar 2008 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) ROLL CALL Adam Tambone Barry Katz, SiSoft Benny Lazer Benjamin P Silva Bob Cox, Micron * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brian Arsenault * David Banas, Xilinx Eckhard Lenski, Nokia Siemens Networks Eric Brock Guan Tao, Huawei Technologies Gregory R Edlund Hazem Hegazy John Figueroa John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Katja Koller, Nokia Siemens Networks Kevin Fisher * Kim Helliwell, LSI Logic Lance Wang, IOMethodology Lynne Green * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Mayer, SiSoft * Moshiul Haque, Micron Technology Peter LaFlamme Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Radovan Vuletic, Qimonda Robert Haller, Enterasys Roy Leventhal, Leventhal Design & Communications Sherif Hammad, Mentor Graphics Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Tom Dagostino, Teraspeed Consulting Group Kazuyoshi Shoji, Hitachi Sadahiro Nonoyama Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for patent disclosure: - No one declared a patent. AR Review: AR: Mike check status of JEITA response document - Mike showed this document. - We decided this would be updated online AR: Mike invite Walter Katz to talk about measurements BIRDs - Mike has asked Walter Katz again, waiting for reply New items: Kim said that his LSI email would soon be going dead. Continued review of the IQ specification: Mike asked which I/V tables the IBIS golden parser sums into combined curves. - Bob: Parser sums pull* + clamps + submodel - Does not consider [Driver Schedule] 5.3.6. {LEVEL 3} [POWER Clamp] voltage sweep range is correct - Mike: What number is used as "VCC" for [GND Clamp] and [Pulldown]? - Should be [POWER Clamp Reference] for [GND Clamp], [Pullup] for [Pulldown] - [Voltage Range] if those are not present. - Mike: We have a convention that tables must extend from -VCC to +2VCC - Do we use the max VCC for this? - Bob: The convention applies to typical V only - Bob: 2*VCC was chosen because T-line effects would cause voltage doubling - In practice it does not happen. - Bob: The IBIS spec should have specified that ALL curves go -vcc to +2*vcc - IBIS specifies that [GND Clamp] extends from -VCC to +VCC - Old TTL had a 1mA wiggle around 0V - Mike: s2ibis implements exactly what IBIS recommends. - Moshiul: We should consider how ODT affects this - We decided to remove all language not related to voltage range from these checks, and made the change "live". - Other considerations are documented a few checks later: - non-monotonic curves - extrapolation conventions 5.3.7. {LEVEL 3} [GND Clamp] voltage sweep range is correct - Same changes made here. AR: Mike send updated IQ 1.1ad document Next meeting: 18 Mar 2008 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) Meeting ended at 12:19 PM Eastern Time.